BharatPremi
10-08 09:56 AM
[/QUOTE=willwin;179338]Going by that, I guess, dates may move forward very slowly until these new applications are dust-shed and taken for process. And, this may take atleast 6-9 months or more in my opinion (going by the processing times of various USCIS centers).
They have started FY 2008 with some caution after July fiasco and may ease it up a bit in the next couple of months. I am confident most 2002 cases and some 2003 cases would see approval in the next 3-4 months.[/QUOTE]
100% agree with confidence. My prediction based on statistical analysis (That is the only thing I have regulary done since 1999 and still doing .. no end to this tunnel...:eek:) is as under. Yopu would see +- 2 months here and there in every bulletin.
DEC 07 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - DEC 2002
EB2 INDIA - APR 2004
January 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - APR 2003
EB2 INDIA - APR 2004
FEB 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - JULY 2003
EB2 INDIA - APR 2004
March 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - AUG 2003
EB2 INDIA - DEC 2004
April 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - DEC 2003/ MARCH 2004
EB2 INDIA - JUN 2005
They have started FY 2008 with some caution after July fiasco and may ease it up a bit in the next couple of months. I am confident most 2002 cases and some 2003 cases would see approval in the next 3-4 months.[/QUOTE]
100% agree with confidence. My prediction based on statistical analysis (That is the only thing I have regulary done since 1999 and still doing .. no end to this tunnel...:eek:) is as under. Yopu would see +- 2 months here and there in every bulletin.
DEC 07 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - DEC 2002
EB2 INDIA - APR 2004
January 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - APR 2003
EB2 INDIA - APR 2004
FEB 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - JULY 2003
EB2 INDIA - APR 2004
March 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - AUG 2003
EB2 INDIA - DEC 2004
April 08 Bulletin:
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EB3 India - DEC 2003/ MARCH 2004
EB2 INDIA - JUN 2005
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sdrblr
09-01 07:58 PM
I will accompany you on the waiting game
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sunny1000
01-12 06:59 PM
One of IVs priorities has been to have a uniform skills based system like other developed countries Eg. Canada.
members are welcome to join in that initiative as weel and suggest ideas.
I'm actually preparing a doc for a way to fairly convert people from EB to a points based skills system. This would also eliminate country based quotas as a side effect.
The CIR in 2007 had a similar proposal, but they did not compensate those already in EB queues.
There is a post from logiclife arguing against the points system back in 2007 (I will find that and post it here). Since when did IV change the strategy to go with the "points system"? The simple argument against the points system is that Government (and NOT the employer) decides who is qualifed in a points based system as against the current system which only allows qualified people with a job and being inside the U.S, to apply and get GC (as against the points system which can be from anywhere in the world).
The current system can be and should be fixed instead of moving to the points based system. For instance, remove the per country quota, allow a non-immigrant visa to be converted into an immigrant visa by an employee without going thru the labor and I-140 after a certain amount of time (3-5 years) which takes away the hold of the employer on your GC process, increase the EB numbers etc.
members are welcome to join in that initiative as weel and suggest ideas.
I'm actually preparing a doc for a way to fairly convert people from EB to a points based skills system. This would also eliminate country based quotas as a side effect.
The CIR in 2007 had a similar proposal, but they did not compensate those already in EB queues.
There is a post from logiclife arguing against the points system back in 2007 (I will find that and post it here). Since when did IV change the strategy to go with the "points system"? The simple argument against the points system is that Government (and NOT the employer) decides who is qualifed in a points based system as against the current system which only allows qualified people with a job and being inside the U.S, to apply and get GC (as against the points system which can be from anywhere in the world).
The current system can be and should be fixed instead of moving to the points based system. For instance, remove the per country quota, allow a non-immigrant visa to be converted into an immigrant visa by an employee without going thru the labor and I-140 after a certain amount of time (3-5 years) which takes away the hold of the employer on your GC process, increase the EB numbers etc.
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sukhwinderd
03-09 09:52 AM
more than $10,000 if they keep you in limbo.
in my case, the companies i worked at has spent nearly 50,000$ ( in USCIS + lawyer + misc fee) for my H1s and my GC applications.
I know there are plenty of suggestions flying around and here is my 2 cent, it may or may not make too much sense, but here it is.
We can rant about the difficulties of not getting a GC, make emotional pleas of our struggles all day, but nothing talks better than money. In the current scenario nothing will grab more attention if you can show how we contribute to the US govt and the US economy in monetary terms. Nothing else will get the attention of these lawmakers like money can. ;-)
Can we put out some numbers for the lawmakers, in terms of our contribution to federal & state taxes, social security, property taxes and overall economy by way of our purchasing power home, cars, appliances, vacations, etc (all the amount that you spend in the US) and multiply these numbers by the number of folks waiting to get GC or who have the GCs. I am sure when you add all this up it will be a significant number, which is bound to catch some attention. Assuming the majority of us make more than the average American, all these figures will definitely standout.
Also propose a one time fee of $10,000 to apply for GC right away. I am willing to pay this fee if USCIS can grant me a GC or provide us a way to stay and work legally in this country with no tie in to the employer. This could be a significant amount of revenue, especially when all lawmakers are looking to reduce the deficit and raise some income. As it is they are regularly increasing the visa fees to pay for some bill to the other like the 9/11 workers healthcare bill, etc. If a 100,000 folks(not sure how many are there in total) like us cough up $10,000 that could equal 1 billion. May seem small amount compare to the US deficit, but when you add up our total contribution it is significant. This may be totally outlandish, but I think something on this line is worth talking about. Like I said, nothing talks better than money.
Not sure if there have been other similar ideas, but if we can compile a few pages of such information with numbers, graphs, comparative charts etc and hand them out to the lawmakers it may help.
Comments and feedback welcome. May be this is totally a dumb idea, but if the admins think it makes sense willing to discuss and prepare something. Also this post is not meant to begin a debate or to distract us from our goal but just some thoughts.
PS: Have contributed in the past and intend to participate (financially and in person) on the Advocacy day.
in my case, the companies i worked at has spent nearly 50,000$ ( in USCIS + lawyer + misc fee) for my H1s and my GC applications.
I know there are plenty of suggestions flying around and here is my 2 cent, it may or may not make too much sense, but here it is.
We can rant about the difficulties of not getting a GC, make emotional pleas of our struggles all day, but nothing talks better than money. In the current scenario nothing will grab more attention if you can show how we contribute to the US govt and the US economy in monetary terms. Nothing else will get the attention of these lawmakers like money can. ;-)
Can we put out some numbers for the lawmakers, in terms of our contribution to federal & state taxes, social security, property taxes and overall economy by way of our purchasing power home, cars, appliances, vacations, etc (all the amount that you spend in the US) and multiply these numbers by the number of folks waiting to get GC or who have the GCs. I am sure when you add all this up it will be a significant number, which is bound to catch some attention. Assuming the majority of us make more than the average American, all these figures will definitely standout.
Also propose a one time fee of $10,000 to apply for GC right away. I am willing to pay this fee if USCIS can grant me a GC or provide us a way to stay and work legally in this country with no tie in to the employer. This could be a significant amount of revenue, especially when all lawmakers are looking to reduce the deficit and raise some income. As it is they are regularly increasing the visa fees to pay for some bill to the other like the 9/11 workers healthcare bill, etc. If a 100,000 folks(not sure how many are there in total) like us cough up $10,000 that could equal 1 billion. May seem small amount compare to the US deficit, but when you add up our total contribution it is significant. This may be totally outlandish, but I think something on this line is worth talking about. Like I said, nothing talks better than money.
Not sure if there have been other similar ideas, but if we can compile a few pages of such information with numbers, graphs, comparative charts etc and hand them out to the lawmakers it may help.
Comments and feedback welcome. May be this is totally a dumb idea, but if the admins think it makes sense willing to discuss and prepare something. Also this post is not meant to begin a debate or to distract us from our goal but just some thoughts.
PS: Have contributed in the past and intend to participate (financially and in person) on the Advocacy day.
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minimalist
04-12 05:41 PM
By the way, why are you calling them losers and traiters? Can you elaborate?
Every company has their business model. If someone doesn't like it, they can for sure move on.
The situation with your friend though it is bad, that is how they work.
What else did you expect the manager to do?
You can't be one step ahead of everybody else in all aspects. There is good and bad working for the socalled losers and traiters. You may get GC in fast track or you may get shipped back when you get sick.
You envy the ones who got the GC and pity the once who got shipped.
Oh yes, sick leave, have you worked for Losers and Traiters on site? do they have a sick leave policy for on site slaves? do any one of them have one for sick leave or for that matter anything else? would you send me one from your company?
My friend was working for Losers and Traiters - got real sick due to neck pain - took leave from work - went to a doctor - doctor suggected him a treatment for a month. Guess what, they shipped him back. Who will have an "idle resource" on site? How ethical.
I asked them to provide a copy of their US insurance policy and on-site employee handbook. I am yet to get one, besides the manager told me since I am no way connected to Losers and Traiters (who wants to?), I am not allowed to ask for such documents. The poor slave friend of mine went to India and resigned within a week.
now....from your posts, you seem to be a slave working for the welfare of one of these companies (desi or dcc). Keep up the good work. And don't forget to ask your boss about the documents mentioned above.
Every company has their business model. If someone doesn't like it, they can for sure move on.
The situation with your friend though it is bad, that is how they work.
What else did you expect the manager to do?
You can't be one step ahead of everybody else in all aspects. There is good and bad working for the socalled losers and traiters. You may get GC in fast track or you may get shipped back when you get sick.
You envy the ones who got the GC and pity the once who got shipped.
Oh yes, sick leave, have you worked for Losers and Traiters on site? do they have a sick leave policy for on site slaves? do any one of them have one for sick leave or for that matter anything else? would you send me one from your company?
My friend was working for Losers and Traiters - got real sick due to neck pain - took leave from work - went to a doctor - doctor suggected him a treatment for a month. Guess what, they shipped him back. Who will have an "idle resource" on site? How ethical.
I asked them to provide a copy of their US insurance policy and on-site employee handbook. I am yet to get one, besides the manager told me since I am no way connected to Losers and Traiters (who wants to?), I am not allowed to ask for such documents. The poor slave friend of mine went to India and resigned within a week.
now....from your posts, you seem to be a slave working for the welfare of one of these companies (desi or dcc). Keep up the good work. And don't forget to ask your boss about the documents mentioned above.
gobi
03-02 12:11 PM
Not sure if I can attend the event but will definitely try to. Honestly every single person in the same boat should attend this. The event in 2007 changed the life of so many people and it is once in a lifetime thing. Let's make it happen again.
Contributed $100.
GOD bless us!!
Contributed $100.
GOD bless us!!
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justAnotherFile
08-05 07:00 PM
I may beat you on total wait time. it's 15 yrs since i entered this country (1995).
first labor filed 1999 (11 yrs back), current one started in 2004
Arae mere pyaara bhaai,
I am completing 10 years in GC process in September 22, 2010.:cool:
How about that?
Before the first application gets to process, I left the company and joined another company. The GC which I am waiting for since then was filed by the second company. They filed it on EB3 eventhough I was eligible for EB2 for "easier processing". At that time both EB2 and EB3 were current. And it remained the same way till I got my labor approved the very same month it went into retrogression. Since then I am waiting.
By the way, my first company sold the labor they filed for me for $15K dollars to another guy. He got his GC in 2005 and just 2 months back he became an US Citizen.
That is a long story told short....
first labor filed 1999 (11 yrs back), current one started in 2004
Arae mere pyaara bhaai,
I am completing 10 years in GC process in September 22, 2010.:cool:
How about that?
Before the first application gets to process, I left the company and joined another company. The GC which I am waiting for since then was filed by the second company. They filed it on EB3 eventhough I was eligible for EB2 for "easier processing". At that time both EB2 and EB3 were current. And it remained the same way till I got my labor approved the very same month it went into retrogression. Since then I am waiting.
By the way, my first company sold the labor they filed for me for $15K dollars to another guy. He got his GC in 2005 and just 2 months back he became an US Citizen.
That is a long story told short....
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satishku_2000
04-09 03:20 PM
I will back you up on this:)
Unless one has studied in the US, one will not realize the worth of the US educational system. One clear attribute of US educated professionals is their superior written and verbal communication skills. Not to mention the enhanced ability to culturally fit in a diverse environment.
If this were the case why so many "US educated desis" work for so called "body shoppers" and stay in "Guest houses" provided by these desi consulting companies.
Unless one has studied in the US, one will not realize the worth of the US educational system. One clear attribute of US educated professionals is their superior written and verbal communication skills. Not to mention the enhanced ability to culturally fit in a diverse environment.
If this were the case why so many "US educated desis" work for so called "body shoppers" and stay in "Guest houses" provided by these desi consulting companies.
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Amma
11-07 03:27 PM
to complete the application form. No harm.
I did it for my renewal.
Best of luck.
I did it for my renewal.
Best of luck.
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walking_dude
04-07 02:04 PM
IV Professional Network is a great idea. Count me in.
Would've joined Team IV too. But distance is a factor stopping me. I can't participate in any of the marathons listed. My moral support is with you guys.
One of our goals is to create a strong IV professional Network as well. Everyone is welcome to Join
Would've joined Team IV too. But distance is a factor stopping me. I can't participate in any of the marathons listed. My moral support is with you guys.
One of our goals is to create a strong IV professional Network as well. Everyone is welcome to Join
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vdlrao
05-05 04:38 AM
Finally, done
PD: June 7th 2006
SC: Texas
I-485 Status: Card Production Ordered
LUID: 05/04/2011
Thank you all IV friends.
One question,
Yesterday I sent my EAD renewel application. should put stop payment on check or should I call USCIS.
Thanks
MC
CONGRATS MC. Enjoy the new freedom.
PD: June 7th 2006
SC: Texas
I-485 Status: Card Production Ordered
LUID: 05/04/2011
Thank you all IV friends.
One question,
Yesterday I sent my EAD renewel application. should put stop payment on check or should I call USCIS.
Thanks
MC
CONGRATS MC. Enjoy the new freedom.
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MeraNaamJoker
08-03 03:23 PM
Hey Mere Dostho....
I am yet another GC hopeful like you guys
I am waiting since last 9 gruesome years for this to complete.
Category : EB3
PD Date : December 26th, 2001
Labor Approved : October 11th, 2006
I 140 Approved : February 17th, 2007
I 485 Receipt Date : September 13th, 2007
Waiting since then and currently my date has become current and following the instructions from dear friends like you folks, i have created Service Center tickets.
Any other tips???
I am yet another GC hopeful like you guys
I am waiting since last 9 gruesome years for this to complete.
Category : EB3
PD Date : December 26th, 2001
Labor Approved : October 11th, 2006
I 140 Approved : February 17th, 2007
I 485 Receipt Date : September 13th, 2007
Waiting since then and currently my date has become current and following the instructions from dear friends like you folks, i have created Service Center tickets.
Any other tips???
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NolaIndian32
04-09 02:01 PM
I have sent an email to the TeamIV email. Can you send me the form? I will be participating in the DC 10 miler
Thanks so much for joining Girijas! I will e-mail the Membership form to you this evening!!
-NolaIndian
Thanks so much for joining Girijas! I will e-mail the Membership form to you this evening!!
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makemygc
05-15 10:29 AM
e-Filed on 4/26, sent papers on 4/28, received by TSC on 4/29, Card production ordered on 5/14. Great job TSC.
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amitjoey
01-08 12:39 PM
I figured, I have to do what I talk about. I helped register 10+ members last weekend and many more before. I probably exhausted all the people that I know that I can help become members.
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BharatPremi
10-12 04:24 PM
bharat premi...please look at this link...it has all the bulletins from 2002. please point me to single instance where the the bulletin was retrogressed even once in 2002-2003
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html
Glad, you took pain to check and see all bulletins. Can you see India in 2003 bulletins? India was simply dispappeared from earlier months-2003 bulletins. It was no more "OverSubscribed" country as per INS. In reality in background Eb3 India was on hold and almost all the year treated like step child by INS. EB2 India was doing good throughout 2003. Since bulletins kicked India out how can you know then? Mymajor source of information as usual was murthy.com and immigration.com. I vaguely remember murthy came up with one or two warning articles about "administrative" hold on Eb3 processing and severe future Eb3 retrogressions then.
http://travel.state.gov/visa/frvi/bulletin/bulletin_1770.html
Glad, you took pain to check and see all bulletins. Can you see India in 2003 bulletins? India was simply dispappeared from earlier months-2003 bulletins. It was no more "OverSubscribed" country as per INS. In reality in background Eb3 India was on hold and almost all the year treated like step child by INS. EB2 India was doing good throughout 2003. Since bulletins kicked India out how can you know then? Mymajor source of information as usual was murthy.com and immigration.com. I vaguely remember murthy came up with one or two warning articles about "administrative" hold on Eb3 processing and severe future Eb3 retrogressions then.
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susie
10-30 01:39 AM
Susie,
You are only talking about children of illegals, E2, L1 visas and problems of British citizens since you are one. Your agenda is different than Immigration Voice. You should not promote your site on this site. You do not have Immigrationvoice link or banner on your site. It shows you are running your own organization without caring for IV and coming to this site to promote your site. IV agenda and your agendas are different.
I think the posts that promote other sites should be deleted.
Sorry your wrong about what I am trying to achieve and that is a pathway to a green card for all children and protection for any child aging out. I have tried to encourage IV to help or work on this issue and would be more than willing to assist them but it does seem their main focus is getting more H1B visa's and dealing with backlogs, but so many H1B children still age out and if their parent passes away whilst an AOS is pending the case dies with the parent, this is where a compassionate visa would come into play
The sad thing is , (or good if you view from a different angle) that there are not enough of us on this site that can take up the cause without the backing of IV
You are only talking about children of illegals, E2, L1 visas and problems of British citizens since you are one. Your agenda is different than Immigration Voice. You should not promote your site on this site. You do not have Immigrationvoice link or banner on your site. It shows you are running your own organization without caring for IV and coming to this site to promote your site. IV agenda and your agendas are different.
I think the posts that promote other sites should be deleted.
Sorry your wrong about what I am trying to achieve and that is a pathway to a green card for all children and protection for any child aging out. I have tried to encourage IV to help or work on this issue and would be more than willing to assist them but it does seem their main focus is getting more H1B visa's and dealing with backlogs, but so many H1B children still age out and if their parent passes away whilst an AOS is pending the case dies with the parent, this is where a compassionate visa would come into play
The sad thing is , (or good if you view from a different angle) that there are not enough of us on this site that can take up the cause without the backing of IV
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waitnwatch
02-01 08:04 PM
Sorry I donot have the power to change the title of the thread....Wish I could do that. I once again apologize to everyone and request the CORE to close the thread or atleast change the title to the title of my first post.
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santb1975
04-17 12:51 AM
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ganguteli
03-21 11:59 PM
WOW!!.. Very quick response.. good. You are trying to do a good job.
You missed two points:
Can you please update your profile.
And you said "As some of you know...." . Were you trying in these lines before too. Can you direct me to any one of your forums more than 2 months old where we can see what you did before.
Trust me, in the past we knew of some guys who tried to distract the forum attention with proposals of doing somethings in the lines as you have said. Their goal is to distract and divert attention.
Not that we do not trust you, but we expect you have atleast your profile updated.
What do you do, when you come across someone who says I can get you a big job done for you, as I have contacts.. Not blindly trust, right.. We also check he his credentials. I am to some extent doing that, to be frank, not that everyone has profiles here with real information.
I told about you to my friends, and they asked me "Why do we trust him, dont you think he may be a Canadian who is trying to distract these innocent Indians and hence make sure they remain in backlogs"....
You and your fake friends.
I remember your posts where you claimed that your friends are ready to contribute huge amounts of money to IV.
Where have they gone now when a funding drive was started?
You cannot even contribute a mere $25 and talk about contributing thousands?
Please avoid trying to make tall claims and promises you cannot keep. It makes a man lose his credibility. A man is known and is respected by the word he keeps.
This Totoro guy is at least doing something and going to meet a lawmaker office? Have you ever had the courage to visit a lawmaker. I only saw posts where you were asking people to send spam emails annonymously to lawmaker offices.
If you are asking him to enterreal profile information, May I ask you if your profile is real? Does it have your real name, phone address, main email, employer name etc in it? Moderators can verfy it? If not then you are also are like most other annonymous users on the internet.
Let us get real and recognize those who are trying to do something genguine. This guy has already emailed IV about himself so why are you trying to distract people.
You missed two points:
Can you please update your profile.
And you said "As some of you know...." . Were you trying in these lines before too. Can you direct me to any one of your forums more than 2 months old where we can see what you did before.
Trust me, in the past we knew of some guys who tried to distract the forum attention with proposals of doing somethings in the lines as you have said. Their goal is to distract and divert attention.
Not that we do not trust you, but we expect you have atleast your profile updated.
What do you do, when you come across someone who says I can get you a big job done for you, as I have contacts.. Not blindly trust, right.. We also check he his credentials. I am to some extent doing that, to be frank, not that everyone has profiles here with real information.
I told about you to my friends, and they asked me "Why do we trust him, dont you think he may be a Canadian who is trying to distract these innocent Indians and hence make sure they remain in backlogs"....
You and your fake friends.
I remember your posts where you claimed that your friends are ready to contribute huge amounts of money to IV.
Where have they gone now when a funding drive was started?
You cannot even contribute a mere $25 and talk about contributing thousands?
Please avoid trying to make tall claims and promises you cannot keep. It makes a man lose his credibility. A man is known and is respected by the word he keeps.
This Totoro guy is at least doing something and going to meet a lawmaker office? Have you ever had the courage to visit a lawmaker. I only saw posts where you were asking people to send spam emails annonymously to lawmaker offices.
If you are asking him to enterreal profile information, May I ask you if your profile is real? Does it have your real name, phone address, main email, employer name etc in it? Moderators can verfy it? If not then you are also are like most other annonymous users on the internet.
Let us get real and recognize those who are trying to do something genguine. This guy has already emailed IV about himself so why are you trying to distract people.
eastindia
09-29 10:40 AM
The point is to get a Bill created eventually and have a campaign. We have to start somewhere.
You are talking about bringing a bill:
How many congressman and Senators have you met till now ?
You want to bring a bill without lobbying. So tell your plans. Let us all see.
You created your new ID, started a thread and you think that is a good start. I need to see something real in an idea than believing in your idea.
You are talking about bringing a bill:
How many congressman and Senators have you met till now ?
You want to bring a bill without lobbying. So tell your plans. Let us all see.
You created your new ID, started a thread and you think that is a good start. I need to see something real in an idea than believing in your idea.
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