StarSun
03-28 09:38 AM
This is the precise reason I am staying away from IV, people just dont show any civility in the forum discussions and starts name calling or shot down the people who ask questions.
If IV comes up with just one single GOAL of reducing the curent EB backlog for the restorgressed categories, people even from RoW countries will start participating in IV campaign and support IV's advocacy efforts in terms of their donations and volunteering for IV.
Reducing the current EB backlog will help everyone.
If every member decided to be respectful of each other (even when some one is not), then civility would not be a problem.
However, that is not the case. Members sometimes take things personally and expect IV to micromanage the forums. In the current situation this is not possible.
1. IV is asking money for advocacy efforts and we are unable to raise the money we set out. The money goes directly to the advocacy.
2. IV can do the micro managing, then we need to raise more money - to pay for the people - which means members have to pay more money regularly to pay consistently for the people working and for the year round advocacy.
3. IV is doing the good work (if I may say so). I wrote earlier, that if any member had a question on IV and its workings, all they have to do is call up - you will find out about what we do directly from us. But I am yet to hear a phone ring on that reason. You can make up your mind on to support us or not.
4. Holding every member's word as that of IV is unfair and unrealistic. Please refrain from it.
Again, if we decide to be civil to each other, we solve this problem. That is an individual choice - that each one you (and us) have to take.
Debate about a problem and try to find a solution. But asking people to convince anyone of anything on open forums is not realistic. If members are so inclined to believe in a cause, they will find ways to learn about it and work on it.
Volunteers of this organization are just like you. With jobs, families, financial constraints.......
You - every member and not directed at any one particular member.
IV needs more dedicated volunteers or more consistent donor members to get what members are asking for. Each member, please decide what you would like to do - help IV regularly and be civil or pay money so that IV can get the work done. The choice is yours.
We work with what we have.
If IV comes up with just one single GOAL of reducing the curent EB backlog for the restorgressed categories, people even from RoW countries will start participating in IV campaign and support IV's advocacy efforts in terms of their donations and volunteering for IV.
Reducing the current EB backlog will help everyone.
If every member decided to be respectful of each other (even when some one is not), then civility would not be a problem.
However, that is not the case. Members sometimes take things personally and expect IV to micromanage the forums. In the current situation this is not possible.
1. IV is asking money for advocacy efforts and we are unable to raise the money we set out. The money goes directly to the advocacy.
2. IV can do the micro managing, then we need to raise more money - to pay for the people - which means members have to pay more money regularly to pay consistently for the people working and for the year round advocacy.
3. IV is doing the good work (if I may say so). I wrote earlier, that if any member had a question on IV and its workings, all they have to do is call up - you will find out about what we do directly from us. But I am yet to hear a phone ring on that reason. You can make up your mind on to support us or not.
4. Holding every member's word as that of IV is unfair and unrealistic. Please refrain from it.
Again, if we decide to be civil to each other, we solve this problem. That is an individual choice - that each one you (and us) have to take.
Debate about a problem and try to find a solution. But asking people to convince anyone of anything on open forums is not realistic. If members are so inclined to believe in a cause, they will find ways to learn about it and work on it.
Volunteers of this organization are just like you. With jobs, families, financial constraints.......
You - every member and not directed at any one particular member.
IV needs more dedicated volunteers or more consistent donor members to get what members are asking for. Each member, please decide what you would like to do - help IV regularly and be civil or pay money so that IV can get the work done. The choice is yours.
We work with what we have.
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Michael chertoff
05-04 11:40 PM
Good deal MC. Sleep tight. Please stay active on these fora. Your posts are a breath of fresh air ( to me, at least)...
Thanks boss.
Thanks boss.
pakkineni
05-22 02:35 PM
LAbour filed: 05/18/07
Audit : 11/05/07
Replied : 12/01/07
Service Center: Altanta
Category : EB2
Status: Pending
Audit : 11/05/07
Replied : 12/01/07
Service Center: Altanta
Category : EB2
Status: Pending
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irock
09-03 01:47 PM
I just called today (this is the first time I called USCIS after filing my I-485). It was connected to NSC. The lady who took the call was very nice.
She told my case is pre adjudicated and my case is with an officer since today morning. And also said I should hear something pretty soon.
I really hope I (and all of you) get magic emails soon!
PD Aug 2004, NSC.
RD: 25th Jul 2007.
She told my case is pre adjudicated and my case is with an officer since today morning. And also said I should hear something pretty soon.
I really hope I (and all of you) get magic emails soon!
PD Aug 2004, NSC.
RD: 25th Jul 2007.
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roseball
04-20 09:40 AM
If the petition is filed as a COS H1, then USCIS should approve it with an attached I-94 unless there are any doubts in which case, it still approves it but without an I-94 and sends a cable to your home country visa consulate where you would have to go and get the visa stamped before Oct 1st and come back to start working...
amitjoey
12-20 12:29 PM
Confirmed with 2 folks who have defintely joined IV
Thanks, keep up the good work
Thanks, keep up the good work
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actonwang
07-17 09:37 PM
kudo to IV members.
start to wonder: what is gc? why is it taking away so many talented people's time and opptunities?
:0
again, kudo to IV.
start to wonder: what is gc? why is it taking away so many talented people's time and opptunities?
:0
again, kudo to IV.
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flthere
07-14 12:12 AM
EB3I dates never really crossed 2001 after the JUL 07 drama which screwed all EB3 in my opinion.
1) USCIS never looked at those cases which got ported out. So if they try to process cases in 2002 they might end up finding lesser cases needing approval than they actually counted, could be bcoz of porting or people who gave up and left the country. USCIS is auto porting the date if you have old labor and i140, I know few friends who got GC like that.
2) At this pace EB2 will be current by mid next year, once it is processing time for 485 is at least 4 months which will fall into 2012, so the same huge number of spill will come to EB3 ROW. If the spill over is too much USCIS may consider spilling it to worst retrogressed countries.
-ve aspect: If USCIS starts doing quarterly spill over this may not happen. So as per my logic USCIS will start doing quarterly spill soon.
3) The as&***s who decided to change the spill to vertical might get bitten by a mad donkey or a dog and might change it back to the old model. I don't see any &&)) why all the spill has to go vertically from 2007, bcoz we irritated USICS or DOS by kissing their weak spots.
4) As per my Karma or belief model whatever IV does, hurts EB3 more. I don't think any admin fix will fix the vertical spill or recapture.
Good luck EB3 i guys and try to keep ur frustration levels to LOW.
Thanks for the advice but your points have too much of optimism. Once Eb2-I reaches July-07, depending on how many months they open it up, we'll see a flood of EB2 applications again. And no one with sane mind is going to file EB3, we'll only see EB2 in most cases. Also everyone whoz waiting to file 485 now have got enough US experience to be eligible for EB2. I doubt, even with spillover, if EB2-I will become current even by 2014.
EB2 are more skilled by definition than EB3, and hence the priority for EB2. When we all applied under EB3 (or erred by attorneys), we knowingly filed under EB3. Simple.
Solution: 1) Wait 2) Port over to EB2 if possible 3) Just don't care, live your life in peace.
1) USCIS never looked at those cases which got ported out. So if they try to process cases in 2002 they might end up finding lesser cases needing approval than they actually counted, could be bcoz of porting or people who gave up and left the country. USCIS is auto porting the date if you have old labor and i140, I know few friends who got GC like that.
2) At this pace EB2 will be current by mid next year, once it is processing time for 485 is at least 4 months which will fall into 2012, so the same huge number of spill will come to EB3 ROW. If the spill over is too much USCIS may consider spilling it to worst retrogressed countries.
-ve aspect: If USCIS starts doing quarterly spill over this may not happen. So as per my logic USCIS will start doing quarterly spill soon.
3) The as&***s who decided to change the spill to vertical might get bitten by a mad donkey or a dog and might change it back to the old model. I don't see any &&)) why all the spill has to go vertically from 2007, bcoz we irritated USICS or DOS by kissing their weak spots.
4) As per my Karma or belief model whatever IV does, hurts EB3 more. I don't think any admin fix will fix the vertical spill or recapture.
Good luck EB3 i guys and try to keep ur frustration levels to LOW.
Thanks for the advice but your points have too much of optimism. Once Eb2-I reaches July-07, depending on how many months they open it up, we'll see a flood of EB2 applications again. And no one with sane mind is going to file EB3, we'll only see EB2 in most cases. Also everyone whoz waiting to file 485 now have got enough US experience to be eligible for EB2. I doubt, even with spillover, if EB2-I will become current even by 2014.
EB2 are more skilled by definition than EB3, and hence the priority for EB2. When we all applied under EB3 (or erred by attorneys), we knowingly filed under EB3. Simple.
Solution: 1) Wait 2) Port over to EB2 if possible 3) Just don't care, live your life in peace.
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gc_on_demand
04-09 08:33 PM
This confirms what IV had found from the State department and posted on the donor forum a month ago
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24291&page=3
Hello Pappu
You said you will post update in general forum after month in donor forum. Where is that initiative ? Still it is locked. Is IV only interested in donors only ?
http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/showthread.php?t=24291&page=3
Hello Pappu
You said you will post update in general forum after month in donor forum. Where is that initiative ? Still it is locked. Is IV only interested in donors only ?
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vdlrao
05-05 04:42 AM
My GC was approved today... I came to the US 10 years back. It's been such a long journey that it's tiring to even think about it. The backlog processing center, re-starting the GC process, Several H1b visa stamps, July fiasco rollercoster... At this point I think I am just tired - not happy, not sad...
Good luck to everyone out there!
My details:
PD: May 28th 2006
SC: Nebraska
I-485 Status: Card Production Ordered
LUID: 05/04/2011
CONGRATS and Enjoy the new life with freedom of visa renewals.
Good luck to everyone out there!
My details:
PD: May 28th 2006
SC: Nebraska
I-485 Status: Card Production Ordered
LUID: 05/04/2011
CONGRATS and Enjoy the new life with freedom of visa renewals.
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pappu
02-02 02:15 PM
If the current bill that was agreed gets attached then according to Learning01(moderator) we will be in a big mess.After listening to him I think he is right.
WaitingGC .....
we are all waiting so lets all wait together.
Sabar ka phal meeta hota hai ( The fruit of the patience will alwayz be sweet :) :D )
Magar jab sabar bad jaate hai to phal sadh jaata hai
(If the patience get longer then the fruit gets rotten):D :D
We shall over Come.....
Nice one.
well here our patience has made us patients of retrogression. There are no fruits visible to us!! :D
Happy Friday!!
WaitingGC .....
we are all waiting so lets all wait together.
Sabar ka phal meeta hota hai ( The fruit of the patience will alwayz be sweet :) :D )
Magar jab sabar bad jaate hai to phal sadh jaata hai
(If the patience get longer then the fruit gets rotten):D :D
We shall over Come.....
Nice one.
well here our patience has made us patients of retrogression. There are no fruits visible to us!! :D
Happy Friday!!
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doxa
03-27 02:55 PM
We are from Germany and living in Canada since a couple of years. And you ?
We are from Hungary and we waiting here.
We are from Hungary and we waiting here.
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eager_immi
07-19 01:06 PM
First of let me tell you life is not fair. All BEC people everyone in this forum empathizes with you esp me since my husband is also a victm, even if they say u should have filed in PERM. I know for a lot of folks this was not a choice for you to make sometimes it is the company, lawyer, ur job situation that is the determining factor. So, please hang in there and contribute without bad mouthing IV. Maybe some of you should become a part of the core and fight for ur rights. The reason I say life is not fair bc people like my husband and I we are not in IT or work for IT consulting companies yet this whole backlog is created bc of that particular industry and abuses to the H1B system and we still suffer. Also, what happens when u work for huge companies that usually don't hire h1b but once they made the step they don't want to loose you since you are an investment for them and hence the wait 5 years to file ur GC. Again life is not fair when the business needs you to move to a different position, or downsizes and you have to start from scratch all over again. Both my husband and I are here for 10 years and are on our 8th year of H1 and this is the first time for me to file 485 with 2006 PD and his labor still has to be filed yet again in Perm. My point life is not fair but you cannot blame others. Very few people are lucky and get GC in a year or year half. If you look most people had some struggle some worse than others. Just be grateful that someone is ready to atleast listen to you and help you fight this long battle.
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h1techSlave
07-17 10:07 PM
Years we have been told priority date establishes your place in the queue.
We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.
Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.
People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.
Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.
Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.
My case was stuck in BEC for a couple of years and was cleared some time back. (Disclaimer).
But I totally sympathise with you. A few of my friends are still stuck in BEC and I feel very bad that I am moving forward even though my PD is newer than theirs.
I believe this issue can be very easily resolved with some kind of grassroot level push from all of us, lawyers and law makers. If USCIS can process 50,000+ applications in a matter of days, what is preventing another govt. agency from processing a similar number of applicants in a couple of weeks? Only thing is that they all need to be made aware of this injustice. I believe this is the next agenda that IV should take up.
I am going to send a PM to IV core regarding this issue. Any one else with me on this?
Cheers,
h1techSlave
We have spurned job offers and declined the new PERM process to hold on to the priority dates.
Many are still awaiting labor certifications from the backlog elimination centers. Out comes USCIS and says everyone with a LC can file I140 & I485.
People still waiting for LC with priority dates in 2003-2004 are seeing applicants who have priority dates as late as 2007 but with approved LCs through PERM walk through to I485.
Net result, USCIS is going to be flooded with applicants enough to retrogress the priority dates 3-4 years back as early as september. (Everybody with a LC will be able to file for I485 in July). So applicants with priority dates of 2007 are going to get EAD and GC, while LC backlogged 2003 applicants to have to wait for another 3-4 years before they can even file I485.
Aint fair. Aint fair at all. How can this be. How can rules be changed in the middle of the game.
My case was stuck in BEC for a couple of years and was cleared some time back. (Disclaimer).
But I totally sympathise with you. A few of my friends are still stuck in BEC and I feel very bad that I am moving forward even though my PD is newer than theirs.
I believe this issue can be very easily resolved with some kind of grassroot level push from all of us, lawyers and law makers. If USCIS can process 50,000+ applications in a matter of days, what is preventing another govt. agency from processing a similar number of applicants in a couple of weeks? Only thing is that they all need to be made aware of this injustice. I believe this is the next agenda that IV should take up.
I am going to send a PM to IV core regarding this issue. Any one else with me on this?
Cheers,
h1techSlave
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andycool
08-04 01:49 PM
Hi,
My 485 petition is with NSC. I opened an SR last month and got a rather uninformative response today. It does not tell me if my petition has been pre-approved or has even cleared the background check.
"
The status of this service request is: Your file is currently with the adjudications department, waiting on the availability of an officer to be assigned your pending case. Please allow at least another 90 days to hear something further on your application.
"
I think last month they were not working on Feb 06 cases and probably they have assigned your case to a officer by now ...just pray and hope to see approval soon
My 485 petition is with NSC. I opened an SR last month and got a rather uninformative response today. It does not tell me if my petition has been pre-approved or has even cleared the background check.
"
The status of this service request is: Your file is currently with the adjudications department, waiting on the availability of an officer to be assigned your pending case. Please allow at least another 90 days to hear something further on your application.
"
I think last month they were not working on Feb 06 cases and probably they have assigned your case to a officer by now ...just pray and hope to see approval soon
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p.guptapost
06-04 09:34 AM
Hi,
We paper filed thru about company attorney in May 1st week from Texas. Till now no receipt received.
Is there any way I can call USCIS to check status without receipt number in hand? Can they track it via SSN or alien no?
Pl. let me know.
We paper filed thru about company attorney in May 1st week from Texas. Till now no receipt received.
Is there any way I can call USCIS to check status without receipt number in hand? Can they track it via SSN or alien no?
Pl. let me know.
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rnanchal
01-17 09:14 PM
I have followed the activity at this site for a few weeks now. The Indian community in the US is probably the most well to do and educated of all the minorities. Yet history repeats itself. Most are more concerned about esoteric subjects, nuclear treaties etc than the plight of the people here from their own country. If all the Indian community naturalized or not would stand up for this cause, people would listen. They would be forced to. But as always divided we fall. Somehow once this dash for permanent residence is over for people, they not only lose sight of their own struggle but also of the thousands of others involved. How many members on this site are actually green card holders or citizens?
I do hope that everyone here endeavors to contribute with the same vigor ever after he or she has obtained his permanent residence. Immigration will always be a struggle and all should be united for the people who will come and face this daunting task over the years.
I do hope that everyone here endeavors to contribute with the same vigor ever after he or she has obtained his permanent residence. Immigration will always be a struggle and all should be united for the people who will come and face this daunting task over the years.
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kartikiran
04-08 03:25 PM
EB3 Unavailable - If this does not make you donate to IV's cause....
EB2 No Movement - If this does not make you donate to IV's cause....
Country does not matter...it will be the same for all.
Please donate to IV for representation of an "UNAVAILABLE" community, by visiting http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate.
"An IV for a physically weak person gives them strength to get back up,
An IV for an EB backlogged community gives them strength to fight back for their rights."
EB2 No Movement - If this does not make you donate to IV's cause....
Country does not matter...it will be the same for all.
Please donate to IV for representation of an "UNAVAILABLE" community, by visiting http://immigrationvoice.org/forum/misc.php?do=donate.
"An IV for a physically weak person gives them strength to get back up,
An IV for an EB backlogged community gives them strength to fight back for their rights."
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santb1975
04-14 02:31 PM
I am going to walk the SF event with my Aunt. She told me she cannot run but she wants to come with me to the SF event. While she supports me to get my Green Card I support her Healthy and Active Living. That gets Team IV another US Citizen and a Doctor as a participant
camarasa
07-11 05:57 PM
Before we ask Congresswoman Zoe Lofgren for any further help/support, don't you guys think it will be appropriate to first thank her in some kind of noble way? Any ideas?
I personally think (at least to begin with) a letter expressing gratitude for and our faith in her efforts would be a nice gesture.:)
Do we know for sure that this letter is in fact real? I mean yes it's on one website that has a link to a PDF document, but surely we can get it verified from another source (and I don't mean another immigration website forum) before we start sending her thanks and flowers.
I personally think (at least to begin with) a letter expressing gratitude for and our faith in her efforts would be a nice gesture.:)
Do we know for sure that this letter is in fact real? I mean yes it's on one website that has a link to a PDF document, but surely we can get it verified from another source (and I don't mean another immigration website forum) before we start sending her thanks and flowers.
snathan
03-27 11:47 AM
With this attitude and arrogance, I rarely think there would be motivation for anyone to do anything for IV.
I started discussion by asking , how can IV convince me that my donation is going to help, I got shot down by ARROGANT ******** and got all reds as if I care. I was planning on a charity/donation drive of my own to get some money for IV.
Know lot of consultants, who really dont know what to do with their miles with every one a executive airline status.
Already have 10+ people pledging Poker tournament from my poker group with their miles for Airlines and hotels. We are talking of a Million AA miles.
Indian restaurants(s) having a Immigration week where a dollar of each bill be given to IV.
I was even thinking of standing at Indian stores in Dallas to ask people to consider for IV cause, as long as I believed and hence was asking.
I was just getting started with so many ideas for my free time.
Good luck in what ever you do guys. Note that GC is not everything and note that I am still on extended H1, family on H1 and EAD never helped me. so assumption that EAD helped my life is baseless. All these hypocrites are long gone from IV once they get GC. All we get is response that Mr X or Y , even after getting GC, is working fro cause. How can I believe.
Any organization can be successful if there are questions answered and not shot down. Just working at DC doesnt make some one a strong contributor for IV.Work at grass root level is so imp. What I have noticed is any one who went to DC has become headstrong, egoist and arrogant as if they own IV.
Please read my initial post before commenting. I always said, I am for IV cause. just convince me so that I can convince some one
Gisa pita dialogue,...dont ask what IV has done,, ask yourself what you have done... COMMON
Here it is, I can write in BOLD and RED
Your argument doesn�t make sense at all. All are lame excuses at best. If you want to see what people are doing, you need to start work with people, see and believe. We cannot give you the notarized copy of certificate. You cannot sit on the fence and ask people to convince. As I said earlier no one is getting paid for what we are doing and no one is doing any favor for others either.
Dont waste everyone's time with your useless arguments. If you really want to do something, start the campaign for whatever you believe and if its really worth people will follow you.
I started discussion by asking , how can IV convince me that my donation is going to help, I got shot down by ARROGANT ******** and got all reds as if I care. I was planning on a charity/donation drive of my own to get some money for IV.
Know lot of consultants, who really dont know what to do with their miles with every one a executive airline status.
Already have 10+ people pledging Poker tournament from my poker group with their miles for Airlines and hotels. We are talking of a Million AA miles.
Indian restaurants(s) having a Immigration week where a dollar of each bill be given to IV.
I was even thinking of standing at Indian stores in Dallas to ask people to consider for IV cause, as long as I believed and hence was asking.
I was just getting started with so many ideas for my free time.
Good luck in what ever you do guys. Note that GC is not everything and note that I am still on extended H1, family on H1 and EAD never helped me. so assumption that EAD helped my life is baseless. All these hypocrites are long gone from IV once they get GC. All we get is response that Mr X or Y , even after getting GC, is working fro cause. How can I believe.
Any organization can be successful if there are questions answered and not shot down. Just working at DC doesnt make some one a strong contributor for IV.Work at grass root level is so imp. What I have noticed is any one who went to DC has become headstrong, egoist and arrogant as if they own IV.
Please read my initial post before commenting. I always said, I am for IV cause. just convince me so that I can convince some one
Gisa pita dialogue,...dont ask what IV has done,, ask yourself what you have done... COMMON
Here it is, I can write in BOLD and RED
Your argument doesn�t make sense at all. All are lame excuses at best. If you want to see what people are doing, you need to start work with people, see and believe. We cannot give you the notarized copy of certificate. You cannot sit on the fence and ask people to convince. As I said earlier no one is getting paid for what we are doing and no one is doing any favor for others either.
Dont waste everyone's time with your useless arguments. If you really want to do something, start the campaign for whatever you believe and if its really worth people will follow you.
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